Whenever I hear about investors who decide not to require companies to submit quarterly reports, or who find other ways to promote long-term thinking, my mood immediately brightens up. That's why I'd be happy to watch this interview again:

Is there really as much momentum as some guests in the show suggested? I am not sure.

But even if the pace of change toward inclusiveness will be slow, it is encouraging to hear about companies that value workers, that genuinely want to have a happy workforce, and that offer training even when there is a possibility that the worker will leave the company. We need more of a mindset where firms allow for the possibility that they will not always "fully recover their investment".